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In April/May 2025 the possible end to the war in Ukraine has world attention. But the peace agreement requires an accepted reading of history - and the two sides are still far apart. Here is an amazing debate over the end of the Soviet Union, the expansion of NATO, nuclear weapons, prior attempts to end the invasion, and even the reminder that Crimea has been the home of Russia's naval base since 1783.
Professor Klaus Larres teaches at the University of North Carolina. Professor Sachs is the Director of the Center for Sustainable Development at Columbia University. In spite of their differences of opinion, Professor Larres introduces Jeffrey Sachs as a world-renowned economics professor, bestselling author, innovative educator, and global leader in sustainable development.
They spoke on April 22, 2025, and here are excerpts from their 90 minute conversation.
Thanks to the University of North Carolina where this discussion was held on April 22, 2025. You can find the 90 minute video on YouTube under the title: Who Rules the New Global Order?